Illustration showing DM conversations progressing through multiple touchpoints beyond a traditional CRM pipeline

The 13-Touchpoint Rule: Why CRM Alone Can’t Close Deals in the DMs

January 13, 20265 min read

The Data Behind Closing in the DMs

Beyond the CRM: Using a DM Sales System to Close High-Ticket Leads

Here's something most founders don’t like to admit...

Your customer relations management software is probably a graveyard.

A long list of names, emails, and phone numbers you paid for.

Leads that once looked promising.

Deals that “might close someday.”

But someday never came.

Not because those leads were bad.

Because the system tracking them was.

Traditional customer relations management software was built for a different era.

An era of phone calls, gated content, and form fills.

Today, revenue moves somewhere else entirely.

It moves through conversations.

And most CRMs can’t see them.

The CRM Gap

A modern SaaS-style illustration showing a traditional CRM dashboard on the left filled with static rows (names, emails, phone numbers) fading into gray, while on the right a dynamic flow of colorful social interactions (DMs, likes, comments, story replies) moves freely between people. A visible gap separates the CRM from the conversations. Clean tech style, soft gradients, minimal icons, FlowChat brand colors, white background, professional and founder-focused.

Why Traditional Customer Relations Management Misses Modern Sales

Customer relations management tools are great at storing static data.

  • Names

  • Emails

  • Phone numbers

  • Deal stages

  • Call notes

What they don’t track well is momentum.

They don’t capture:

  1. Likes on a LinkedIn post

  2. Replies to an Instagram story

  3. Thoughtful comments

  4. "Saw this and thought of you” moments

  5. Quiet back-and-forth conversations

These moments don’t look like sales activity inside a CRM.

But they are exactly where trust is built.

And trust is what closes high-ticket deals.

This is the CRM gap.

Not missing data.

Missing context.

The 13-Touchpoint Rule

The 13-Touchpoint Journey  Concept: Visualizing the progression from first interaction to deal close

Why Most Deals Die at Touchpoint #3

Here’s the data most founders never see.

In modern, relationship-driven sales, most deals close between the 8th and 13th meaningful interaction.

In fact, 80% of sales deals are closed at (or after) the 13th touchpoint.

Not the first DM.

Not the second follow-up.

Not the “just circling back” message.

Yet most people quit after two or three touches.

They send one DM.

They get silence.

They label the lead “cold.”
(That’s not a cold lead... that’s a neglected human.)

Sales don’t stall because interest disappears.

They stall because follow-up stops before trust forms.

A DM sales system exists to solve this exact problem.

What Counts as a Touchpoint Now?

This is where traditional customer relations management breaks down.

In a DM-first world, a touchpoint is not just a message.

It includes:

  • Liking a prospect’s post

  • Commenting with insight

  • Replying to a story

  • Sending a short value message

  • Acknowleding a milestone

  • Asking a thoughtful question

  • Following up without pressure

Individually, these feel small.

Stacked together, they create familiarity.

By the time you reach touchpoint #13, asking for a something feels natural.

Not salesy.

Not forced.

Rather, expected.

Micro-Signals vs Cold Outreach

Why DMs Outperform Funnels

Cold outreach assumes interruption.

DM selling assumes awareness.

People rarely buy because you showed up first.

They buy because you showed up at the right moment.

That moment reveals itself through micro-signals:

  • Repeated engagement

  • Faster replies

  • Longer responses

  • Personal disclosures

  • Problem language

A DM sales system tracks these signals in real time.

Instead of blasting everyone equally, you prioritize:

  • Who is warming up

  • Who needs nurturing

  • Who is ready for a pivot

  • Who should wait

This is lead nurturing built for social platforms.

Not volume.

Precision.

From Small Talk to Sales Talk

Without Sounding Like “That Guy”

“I don’t want to be salesy.”

This is the fear that keeps founders stuck in the friend zone.

They chat.

They build rapport.

They never transition.

And nothing closes.

The shift happens when you stop pitching and start listening for problem windows.

When a prospect says:

  • “We’re slammed right now”

  • “Pipeline is weird lately”

  • "We’re busy but not growing”

That’s not small talk.

That’s an opening.

Instead of pitching, you ask a clarifying question.

“When you say busy, is that because leads are coming in but not closing… or because follow-up is falling apart?”

Now you’re not selling.

You’re diagnosing.

This is Sell by Chat® in action.

Where Conversational AI Actually Helps

AI does not replace selling.

It replaces chaos.

Used correctly, conversational AI helps by:

  • Flagging problem language

  • Surfacing ready conversations

  • Preserving context

  • Highlighting next steps

It should never speak for you.

It should help you see where to speak.

This is how AI strengthens lead nurturing instead of destroying trust.

The RainMaker Trap

(And the FlowMaker™ Shift)

From Rainmaker to FlowMaker  Concept: Identity shift from hustle to system

Rainmakers live inside conversations.

They rely on memory, hustle, and personal energy.

Revenue depends on how hard they push.

FlowMakers™ build systems.

They see:

  • Where every conversation lives

  • How many touchpoints have occurred

  • Who needs attention today

  • Where revenue is forming

The shift isn’t about automation.

It’s about visibility.

A DM sales system turns reactive selling into an engine.

Why FlowChat Exists

The Messaging Layer Your CRM Never Was

FlowChat does not replace customer relations management software.

It completes it.

CRMs store outcomes.

FlowChat tracks conversations.

CRMs record deals.

FlowChat captures momentum.

Together, they form a complete revenue system.

FlowChat provides:

  • A unified DM inbox

  • Visual DM pipelines

  • Micro-signal tracking

  • Smart follow-up reminders

  • AI-assisted conversation support

This is how founders reach touchpoint #13 without burnout.

Last thought...

High-ticket sales don’t close because of one perfect message.

They close because of consistency.

"Obsessive Consistency"

The brands winning today aren’t louder.

They’re more present.

They don’t chase leads.

They nurture conversations.

And they understand that every interaction matters.

Stop treating leads like rows in a spreadsheet.

Start treating them like relationships in motion.

Then you'll close more deals!

Happy Selling,

-sean 🔥🕺

P.S. If your CRM feels full but your pipeline feels empty, it’s not a lead problem.

It’s a conversation problem. We built FlowChat to fix exactly that.


For a full breakdown in building your DM Sales System, check out this article.

Sean Malone is one of the co founders of FlowChat.com and the co creator of the Smart Messaging Sell by Chat™ system. He helps founders turn conversations into clients through simple, repeatable DM frameworks used across every major social platform.

He is an Award Winning author with his recent book, "DM ME: Create Life Changing Conversations That Sell", and has successfully closed more then $150 Million in personal sales using the methods he and the team at FlowChat teach.

Sean Malone

Sean Malone is one of the co founders of FlowChat.com and the co creator of the Smart Messaging Sell by Chat™ system. He helps founders turn conversations into clients through simple, repeatable DM frameworks used across every major social platform. He is an Award Winning author with his recent book, "DM ME: Create Life Changing Conversations That Sell", and has successfully closed more then $150 Million in personal sales using the methods he and the team at FlowChat teach.

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